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  1. #1
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    Default Chiropractor As PTP

    Anyone ever had a Chiro as PTP? Please share pros and cons. When my AA said it was permissible I was surprised.

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    Default Re: Chiropractor As Ptp

    Chiro as PTP is fine... but, you are still capped at 24 visits of Chiro/PT/OT for the life of your claim.

    You should select a Dr based on the type of injury you are claiming...not what your AA thinks.
    And...IMHO, a chiro should not be used past the first few visits. A chiro who doesn't refer out for specialty evaluation...for a "true injury", but keeps manipulation going isn't in the IW best interests.

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    AA's like Chiro's as PTP for 2 reasons. They view most as applicant friendly (not that they will make things up but tend to treat IW's with a kinder heart) and 2, your AA may already have a relationship with this particular Dr, if familiar with his or her work and knows he isn't an IC shill. Also of importance, your 24 cap doesn't apply if they aren't "treating" but acting as PTP. Your PTP will refer you to whatever specialist you need. AA's deal with with these Dr's and have been for years, I'd be hard pressed to advise someone to ignore the recommendation of your AA for a public web forum. They have hundreds of clients and know who gives people a air shake versus who doesn't. Listen to their advise, voice your concerns if any and get on the same page. Based on the little information you have provided, your AA appears to be guiding you based on his experience and knowledge. I'd stick with that until you have good reason not to.

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    Default Re: Chiropractor As PTP

    Hmmm....very very interesting.

    Only let me clarify that I WAS THE ONE who asked my AA if I could choose a Chiro as my PTP. I was surprised by his answer. He told me to take into consideration that because I have some complex health issues that a Chiro will not be able to prescribe meds but he said it was up to me.

    My AA has never referred me to a any doctor for that matter. Kinda wish he had because choosing a doctor in the WC system is like going to the beach and sifting thru sand to find THE ONE...only they all look alike on the outside and when you get burned, its difficult to know who to trust.

    TheRABBIT~ if I do choose a Chiro I sure hope he/she is applicant friendly, thorough, organized, competent, follows the wc guidelines and is capable of coordinating my care....heck, I'll even take a kind heart too . Ultimately what i want is what im sure every applicant wants..... to know what the real problem is, to fix it and to get back to work if that's possible..... so if it means choosing a PTP outside the traditional M.D. box I'm willing to give it a chance.

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    He told me to take into consideration that because I have some complex health issues that a Chiro will not be able to prescribe meds but he said it was up to me.
    Chiros are not "doctors" in the scense of treating complex medical issues.
    You choose a Dr/PTP based on the type of body part/injury you are claiming...the defense can object to your PTP at any time and file for a change of PTP with the WCAB.

    The 24 visit cap on PT/OT/Chiro DOES in fact apply, it's very difficult to determine what is a "chiro visit" vs a PTP office call.
    I'd be hard pressed to advise someone to ignore the recommendation of your AA for a public web forum. They have hundreds of clients and know who gives people a air shake versus who doesn't. Listen to their advise, voice your concerns if any and get on the same page. Based on the little information you have provided, your AA appears to be guiding you based on his experience and knowledge. I'd stick with that until you have good reason not to.
    Where is there reference to the AA referring this IW to a Chiro as PTP ?

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    In my experience (in NC) the judges who decide cases don't give much respect to the professional opinions of chiros, and they do tend to give a lot of weight to the opinions of MDs.
    The North Carolina Court of Appeals has held that "In contested Workers' Compensation cases today, access to competent legal counsel is a virtual necessity." Church v. Baxter Travenol Labs, Inc., and American Motorists Insurance Company, 104 N.C. App. 411, 416 (1991).

    Bob Bollinger, Attorney at Law

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    BvIA~ There was no specific reference to AA referring me to a Chiro. I felt compelled to clarify how the conversation began with my AA just incase anyone misinterpreted.

    I doubt the defense would give two cents about my choice of a Chiro as PTP since it seems their strategy is to minimize and deny. If they were really concerned about my complex health issues, they would have objected and filed for a change with the WCAB to remove my current PTP M.D. As for complex issues, I assume that the chiro could refer as necessary. yes?

    My search is for a new PTP....If he/she happens to be a Chiro, so be it.... I'm not necessarily looking for "adjustments" I'm looking for a PTP. If the Chiro thinks I may benefit from adjustments, ok. You're right. It does seem like it would be difficult to determine if its a "chiro visit" or "PTP call". If it becomes an issue I guess the IC or WCAB will make that determination.

    Cmplwyr-if judges generally tend not to respect Chiros opinions then why would they be allowed to act as PTP?

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    Default Re: Chiropractor As Ptp

    Chiros if good ones can and do all the same test, not labs but physical as an MD. Mine diagnosed my shoulder injury as roter cuff after DR sent me home saying just had a little stain. He told me tell employer that seeing a specialist was in order. he said do not wait or could end up a lot worse. A good Chiro is gonna tell you what is wrong and is not gonna mess around. They go through most of the standard medical school as MD does, but have very extensive training on how to manipulate the spine and joints to free up nerves that are pinched. They will do their best to heal the whole person not just give meds to cover up the pain.

    I am lucky to have found one of the really really good ones, years of heavy work, and working in rough conditions caused lower back trouble and had trouble with my legs,(never claimed under WC, not gonna either, to many questions due to active life style). I had knee injury back in high school never healed right due to crappy surgeon. I am now able to after a few years worth of work, to climb a ladder or anything else for that matter again, and walk and squat and kneel.

    All said in done, CHIROPRACTORS GET A RAW DEAL WHEN IT COMES TO IC, don't get paid, get disqualified as a treating Ph. Not a big fan of common MDs as they drug ya up and dump you to the curb for the next PHD to handle, until you are a drug dependent cripple.

    Sorry, just my rant!

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    Purplepuppy, I dont mind the RANT!! GOOD NEWS! Sounds like you've come a long way in your healing process.

    I'm willing to give a Chiro the benefit of the doubt and see for myself. Will keep you posted with feedback once Ive been initiated.

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    Default Re: Chiropractor As Ptp

    Heavenly--because the workers' comp judges did not make the law that allows a chiro to be the PTP.

    Puppy-- I don't think chiros "go through most of the standard medical school as MD does." Chiros go to chiropractic school, not medical school. There is a reason why chiros can't prescribe most of the drugs they have on the shelf down at the Walgreen's.
    The North Carolina Court of Appeals has held that "In contested Workers' Compensation cases today, access to competent legal counsel is a virtual necessity." Church v. Baxter Travenol Labs, Inc., and American Motorists Insurance Company, 104 N.C. App. 411, 416 (1991).

    Bob Bollinger, Attorney at Law

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