How Accurate Is an EMG
Has anyone had an EMG? Inserting needles in your muscle and putting electricity to them to test your nerves or muscles.
If anyone has had it done, please tell me how it feels and how accurate is this test? If it is just another gimmick for a doctor to sell insurance companies, I don't want to be shocked. I found out the FCE is a joke. I see why the FCE testers push their little service. I would give anything if they had filmed and put a sound device on me to prove that this jerk that tested me reported many lies. I am so sick of these people. We need a vomiting emotion face. I would put it here!
I had one done it didn't hurt. Mine involved my neck, shoulder and arm.
I was told I have Carpal tunnel ( the one area that doesn't hurt).
Lue, on my my, I had this done and it was very very very painful. My hand and leg hurt for 2 - 3 weeks afterward. This test was done over 2 months ago and I still have issues with my thumb, I believe he damaged my nerves, but try to prove that one....I am just injured worker a nobody. They did an EMG/NCV both electrical nerve and muscle. In the beginning, not so bad, but as the test went on and my muscles didn't perform the way he wanted them to do, he cranked up the juice and would quickly manipulate my leg with his hand as he turned the juice up and honestly, it felt like he burned the bone in my leg and hand. I know my muscle was damaged, I couldn't move my toes on one foot and I had sunken spot on my right calf, but of course, he said all was well. I hope I never have to go through anything like this again. The doctors are jerks, they don't listen to you, they don't tell the truth and they don't treat the problem, they work hard to disprove and avoid the issue......my tests were for my arms, legs and spine, he didn't do my spine (thank God) because he said all else was well....right! So to answer you question about accuracy, not in my opinion.
Best of luck to ya!
lue; I had this done and the shocks was bad enough but the needles was terrable I don't know how accurate this test is but mine came back normal some how although I still have pain in my right shoulder and arm and numbing from the tips of my fingers to my elbow but this test apperantly says that i'm not maybe our resident doctor POR will key in on thisand shed some light on this test for us.Maybe one of our resident attorneys will also key in on this and shed some light on the legal aspects of how this test affects the other issues and the relavance of this test.OH YES HI LUE how you doing tonight. HL.............
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I had it done 3 times. It is not that bad!!!!!!!!! I had 2 on my upper
body and the needles are so thin you don't feel it the only discomfort
was when they turned up the juice.one in the lower body(back) the worst
part of that was when the doc put probe on my inner hip,he didn't get a reading so he had push quite hard.I had it done 3 times and i would do it
3 more times they can tell allot from a emg
good luck, Tim
I've never had one, but I know enough about them to be dangerous.
I'd think it's fair to say that your level of pain tolerance is going to determine how you ultimately feel about the EMG. Some people think the thing is excruciating, some think it's not so bad. I'd suspect that the person giving the test also has a lot to do with it.
As far as reliability, it's usually pretty good, honestly. All the test really does is send electrical pulses down your nerves to determine where there are any obstructions in your nerve pathways.
Most of the time in WC it's seen in CTS and low back pain (sciatica) cases.
Good luck with it. Remember, just because it's called by its initials doesn't automatically make it bad.
Thanks everybody for your input on this. I find my pain tolerance high, but I also have electric fences for cattle and get caught up in it once in a while. I can't say that it is a pain like getting hit in the head with a hammer, but it just feels like something has gone through and seperated your joints. It also leaves a metal taste in your mouth. Such a jolt!
Where I read it takes up to an hour to have it done, I think about the fence. I don't mind getting into it occasionally, but I don't want to hold it for an hour!!
As far as how am I doing? OK I guess. Just a bit of anxiety that the lying started so early at work, all the way down to the doctor and FCE tester. How can you pull out of that? How do you tell someone that the employer lied, the doctor lied about me never telling him I had back trouble?(That one seems easy to pull out of since that was what I was being treated for)
How all the x-rays are fine, and down to the tester telling that I moaned and groaned all through the test. Made all kind of faces too.
IC is sending me to this EMG doctor. I don't see the trend changing here with this. I just don't see him saying that I have any problem. Everything is perfect. Can he manipulate the test or record it in any way he wants. Can he pull another test out of a file and put my name on it? There has to be a catch on this, otherwise, IC would not want to send me there.
This whole process makes me feel like I live in a third world country where the end comes to a large paper shredder. I don't think they hung Saddam, he was put in charge over WC IC's. I don't see any reason to ever go on WC if you are injured. If people see you get injured, and you don't report it, you can get fired. But yet if you report it, you don't get treated.
Are there seminars put on by the IC on what to do. Does the IC call the clinics, and they meet on how they treat WC patients, otherwise they are going to lose their contract? What about the FCE tester? I guess he is definitely paid by then and does his study by what they want to hear. If they go back to him and ask him what job I could do, sounds like I could be a voice over in a porno film studio, moaning, groaning and grunting. I guess I need to start practicing on that one. That one totall pi**es me off.
Right now I am sitting here with half of the skin missing off my right forearm, where I fell off the steps going into my house from losing my balance. It's not like I do that once a week or so. I have never had a problem with my balance on the steps until this accident.
Seems like someone down the line, involved in this scam would tell on the insurance company. Everyone involved is told not to directly answer any questions and to evade any thing that sounds like it could have been caused by an injury. To lie and withold the true information to the pateint. This is so depressing! I hate that they are getting to me. I guess this experience from WC IC is to tell my fellow employees to not turn it in on WC if you want to be normal again
I just had an EMG/NCV done this past week. I was told the NCV (electrodes applied to differnet areas and then a current passes through) would feel like an electric jolt, and she was correct. It was unpleasant but each pulse was over quickly. The EMG was painful when she had to move the needle around (digging) to get a resons but the actual insertion was not so bad. Two of the needles to my lower back had a stinging sensation like when you have an injection of meds. I did have some residual soreness fronm the needles, worse above left knee. These are not tests I look forward to redo. I was told that if it got to painful to speak up and they would stop. I was told I have Radiculopathy, neuropathy and impingement at L5-S1 with acute nerve denervation. Explains all my numbness, weakness and terrible pain in my feet,legs and hip. So I guess it is worth the aggravation. Just try to relax as much as possible during the test. Good luck.
Last edited by oldlady; 10-31-2007 at 09:19 AM.
Had mine done just a couple of months ago for cervical and shoulder injury. Wasn't too bad all considered. I agree with JLJ that much depends on who is administrating the test. I expect that if the needle is not inserted where it needs to be that a very inaccurate reading will come out of it. How they tell for sure where the nerve endings are I don't know. I do know that on a couple of them it was a bit more that discomfort but never to the point that I asked to have the test stopped. Hope you do ok with it Lue.
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Did the doctor tell you how you did when you finished, or was he guarded so he could figure out how he wanted the test to read later on when he thought about it?
As often as they do these tests, they have some idea of what is going on. Like looking at a heart monitor. Does it look OK now or not?