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    Default Any Ideas for Getting All Medical Records

    My workers compensation claim was made in the State of: California

    Been dealing with WC almost 4 years now. I have an attorney. Iím P&S with rating and restrictions from the AME with future medical care and surgeries needed on my physical side of my work injuries. With my psych injury my psych has increased my meds and Iím in therapy and he has made my P&S certifying for SSDI..... so Iíve applied for SSDI

    SSDI is aware of the entire work comp stuff and the payments Iíve gotten from work comp. They are trying to get my medical records on my behalf from the IC, and from my psych... itís been 6 weeks since theyíve requested my records.

    So SSDI sent me a letter asking if I can try to get them. I have some such as the AMEs, a few from my Ortho, but the PQME Psych wonít and didnít send me a copy of her report.

    Iím sure I can get my psych medical records from my psych Iíve been seeing over 3 years now....

    I just want to make sure I get ALL my medical records that SSDI needs, so Iím thinking maybe my work comp attorney may be able to make a copy of every medical record there is regarding my work comp case since those are my disability causing injuries. The IC approved my psych claim, and they also approved my physical injury claim as well..... I just need all the medical records.

    Any ideas guys? How did any of you guys get ALL your medical records to submit to SSDI?

    Or should I just try to go to each individual dr./psych and ask for my records?

    Thank you in advance for your feedback
    Last edited by Extremelyconfused; 05-13-2018 at 12:40 PM. Reason: Remove IC company name

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    Default Re: Any Ideas for Getting All Medical Records

    Extremelyconfused
    How did any of you guys get ALL your medical records to submit to SSDI?
    When you apply, they ask for a complete list of all doctors and that's treated you.
    They then request records from all of the providers on the list and that's it.

    I've never hear of hem asking someone for records, in fact I'm not sure if that's even legitimate.
    If they allow that, people would submit the records that favors their claim and leave out the rest.
    They have to do a complete, independent review of your entire medical history, anything else would be irrelevant.

    If you have a lawyer, he should be handling this, you shouldn't do anything.

    Tony
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    Default Re: Any Ideas for Getting All Medical Records

    I have not ever heard of that either..... but word for word the letter states:

    ďAt this time we notified the source that we would pay a reasonable amount for the records, however we have not received a response.

    Please contact the treating source and ask them to send copies of your records as soon as possible so that we can complete the processing of your claim.

    Additionally, if you have any medical records from them that you have not already provided us please mail copies to us. ď
    Then it gives the disability eval analyst name and number.

    Iíll call my WC lawyer tomorrow I donít have an SSDI lawyer. Iíll also ask the medical providers to send my records as that letter states. Itís that ďadditionallyĒ part of the letter that has me thinking they want me to send something. Thank you as always for your feedback Tony! (:

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    Never heard of any of it.
    They have to do a complete review of your medical history, request for records by SS isn't voluntary - those providers must comply.

    You better consult a SSDI lawyer before doing anything, this whole deal sounds fishy to me.

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    I agree. Thank you Tony.

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    I have been on ssdi for over 11 years....Long story short, I had many problems, I fight confusion and I filed and walked away....I got a call from SS asking me why I stopped my process....I just told them I could not coup with it all...They were helpful, and set up a phone appointment and said, give us the name of your Drs, phone numbers, and an address If I had it.

    Weeks later I got my paperwork to fill out(day to day living questions).....About the same time my Drs. got the standard SS forms...

    Make sure any Drs. and the office know what you are doing....I have heard some offices my charge for their time..... In my case I wasnt charged by Drs or staff....It took about 4 months and I was a rare one who was under 50 and were approved first time around.

    The rule of thumb is file first time by yourself, if not approved ,hire ONLY a SS attorney.

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    Here's some good info on this topic that I wasn't aware of.

    What Happens If All of My Records are Not Submitted in Time?
    The Social Security Disability examiner will make every effort to obtain medical records from your doctor’s office or hospital, but not all of these files will make it into the hands of the examiner. Physician’s offices and medical record’s offices are often overwhelmed with requests for information. While some offices may be quick, it may take others months before they respond to the request. Even then, crucial medical evidence relevant to your application may be inadvertently missed.

    Gathering all of your medical evidence is very time consuming. If the Disability Determination Services (DDS) office has received what they deem to be sufficient enough information, they might make a decision on your application, even if all of the requested medical documentation has not yet been received. If this occurs, you may not win your Social Security Disability Insurance (SSDI) claim.

    What Can I Do if My Medical Records Have Not Yet Been Received by the SSA?
    By obtaining medical records yourself, you will know what medical evidence you have on hand and what information you are still missing. Additionally, you can continue to follow up with the doctor’s office to ensure that they are on top of the medical records request. While a doctor’s office will respond to SSA requests for information, a patient’s personal inquiry sometimes helps to move the process along more quickly. If you do obtain any records, be sure to keep a copy for yourself as you might need them again down the road.

    Keep in mind that some offices may charge a fee for the copying and processing of the records. Depending on the state that you live in and the length of your medical records, these costs can add up. There are a few things that you can try to help decrease your costs. For example, you may be able to request your records in electronic format. By doing so, you will save the “per page” copying fee that some offices charge. In some cases, you may want to speak directly to your doctor about obtaining your records. While offices can charge you fees for gathering your records, they are not required to do so, and may be flexible in your particular situation.

    Remember, SSDI applications have been denied based on missing medical information. While obtaining your own medical records can be tedious, it is the one way to ensure that all of your documents make it to the SSA.
    https://www.disability-benefits-help...l-records-ssdi

    Tony
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    Default Re: Any Ideas for Getting All Medical Records

    Quote Quoting airdale View Post
    I have been on ssdi for over 11 years....Long story short, I had many problems, I fight confusion and I filed and walked away....I got a call from SS asking me why I stopped my process....I just told them I could not coup with it all...They were helpful, and set up a phone appointment and said, give us the name of your Drs, phone numbers, and an address If I had it.

    Weeks later I got my paperwork to fill out(day to day living questions).....About the same time my Drs. got the standard SS forms...

    Make sure any Drs. and the office know what you are doing....I have heard some offices my charge for their time..... In my case I wasnt charged by Drs or staff....It took about 4 months and I was a rare one who was under 50 and were approved first time around.

    The rule of thumb is file first time by yourself, if not approved ,hire ONLY a SS attorney.

    Thank you so much for your feedback, I almost feel like giving up.... keyword almost. I too am under 50, Iíve received and returned the day to day living questions, as has my daughter... she helps me with day to day living.

    I go see my psych every 6 weeks and I go Wednesday thankfully I can take that letter from SS and show them they need to please send my medical records.

    Iíve emailed my wc lawyer because he would also have all the medical records that the IC would have that SS is also requesting.... so we will see, because Iím not allowed to speak to the IC due to my not yet settled wc claim.

    The SS analysts is very very nice and helpful, he actually answers his phone and answers any questions... hopefully after I speak to my psych wed. they will go ahead and send the records. Thanks again for sharing your experience with me. Iíll keep my post updated with what happens.

    Quote Quoting tony View Post
    Here's some good info on this topic that I wasn't aware of.

    What Happens If All of My Records are Not Submitted in Time?
    The Social Security Disability examiner will make every effort to obtain medical records from your doctor’s office or hospital, but not all of these files will make it into the hands of the examiner. Physician’s offices and medical record’s offices are often overwhelmed with requests for information. While some offices may be quick, it may take others months before they respond to the request. Even then, crucial medical evidence relevant to your application may be inadvertently missed.

    Gathering all of your medical evidence is very time consuming. If the Disability Determination Services (DDS) office has received what they deem to be sufficient enough information, they might make a decision on your application, even if all of the requested medical documentation has not yet been received. If this occurs, you may not win your Social Security Disability Insurance (SSDI) claim.

    What Can I Do if My Medical Records Have Not Yet Been Received by the SSA?
    By obtaining medical records yourself, you will know what medical evidence you have on hand and what information you are still missing. Additionally, you can continue to follow up with the doctor’s office to ensure that they are on top of the medical records request. While a doctor’s office will respond to SSA requests for information, a patient’s personal inquiry sometimes helps to move the process along more quickly. If you do obtain any records, be sure to keep a copy for yourself as you might need them again down the road.

    Keep in mind that some offices may charge a fee for the copying and processing of the records. Depending on the state that you live in and the length of your medical records, these costs can add up. There are a few things that you can try to help decrease your costs. For example, you may be able to request your records in electronic format. By doing so, you will save the “per page” copying fee that some offices charge. In some cases, you may want to speak directly to your doctor about obtaining your records. While offices can charge you fees for gathering your records, they are not required to do so, and may be flexible in your particular situation.

    Remember, SSDI applications have been denied based on missing medical information. While obtaining your own medical records can be tedious, it is the one way to ensure that all of your documents make it to the SSA.
    https://www.disability-benefits-help...l-records-ssdi

    Tony
    Tony, I cannot thank you enough for the information you find and provide. This information has given me that extra hope I need to keep going with this process...... at times between wc fight and now needing to start a new process applying for disability itís hard not to just throw all this paperwork in the air and scream....

    But then I am able to come to this forum and read others experiences and important informative information (with links)!!!! You are a blessing to us all Tony. Thank you for even taking the time. Iím not sure you realize how much what you do with this forum means to me and many other members!

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    Default Re: Any Ideas for Getting All Medical Records

    A mental health professional is not going to give you, the patient, a copy of his or her records. But you can ask the records keeper at their office to send those records directly to the Social Security office. You may need to sign a release at each office and give them the SSA's address. Make it as easy for them as possible. They are busy and responding to record requests from non-treating entities like SSA and lawyers is their lowest priority.
    The North Carolina Court of Appeals has held that "In contested Workers' Compensation cases today, access to competent legal counsel is a virtual necessity." Church v. Baxter Travenol Labs, Inc., and American Motorists Insurance Company, 104 N.C. App. 411, 416 (1991).

    Bob Bollinger, Attorney and Board Certified Specialist in NC Workers' Compensation Law

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    Quote Quoting complwyr View Post
    A mental health professional is not going to give you, the patient, a copy of his or her records. But you can ask the records keeper at their office to send those records directly to the Social Security office. You may need to sign a release at each office and give them the SSA's address. Make it as easy for them as possible. They are busy and responding to record requests from non-treating entities like SSA and lawyers is their lowest priority.
    Thank you, I definitely advised my psych and took the letter SSD sent to me stating they hadnít received the records yet.

    Meanwhile I had asked my lawyer to send me my medical records he has, since I am P&S with my approved psych claim and approved physical injuries, so I am not sure what all records he will send me, but Iíll get what heís mailed me as well.

    Iím not sure what records SSD did get... but I have 2 appts with their Evaluation Ortho dr and their evaluation psych.... I asked the SSD analyst when he called if I needed to take my medical records to these 2 appointments and he said no, my medical records have been sent already....

    Iím going to take the records I have anyway. Hopefully after this I can get a decision. Seems like itís moving fast tho because I barely applied for SSDI in March. Workers Comp is definitely not that fast.

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